sikhi for dummies

27.) Debunking Contradictions in SGGS.

There is a very old post on internet which consist a list of contradictions in SGGS made by a muslim, which are false and some people spam it everywhere, some of them are pure non-sense made up of mixing lines and pages. They have been debunked here & there but i will do it once and for all. 1. It teaches the contradictory concepts of God being Sargun i.e. with attributes and also Nirgun -without attributes (p287; p102). ans. All forms belong to God. Sikhi does not deny sargun form, humans are sargun form, nirgun form i.e. formless God is supereme and should be worshipped. 2. It teaches reincarnation and yet the Guru Granth Sahib questions reincarnation(p748 M5; p1366 Kabir). ans. Kabir is not denying reincarnation. He is telling 'one should dies such a death they shall never die again' which means get liberated and you won't take another birth in first place. 3. It teaches the concept of hell (p465 M1; p524 M5; p793 Ravidass; p875 Ravidass; p1383 Farid; Asa Kabirji GGS p484). And yet says hell does not exist (p969 Kabir). And it also teaches the mutually exclusive concept of karma & transmigration. If you are born again and again to pay for the sins of previous lives, why the need for hell or heaven? (p686; p156; Rag Malhar M3; Rag Gauri M5) ans. Heaven & hell are used in multiple situations such as realm, mental state, liberation or rebirth. Hell in sikhi also means rebirth. Even mother's womb is considered hell. Kabir Denying hell means saints are not joining places like hell or heaven because they are liberated. True heaven is liberation because some realms are also considered heaven as Final Goal but in Sikhi, liberation is superior. Your birth in such heaven or hell depends on your karma. These are realms where you reborn to pay for past karmas, you either get pain in hell or pleasure in heaven, they are under creation not permanent. 4. The Guru Granth Sahib says neither Hinduism nor Islam has the truth (p329 Kabir; p875 Namdev) and yet says that the opposite (contrary) is also true(p1350 Kabir).Guru Arjun Dev even validates the Vedas (p632 M5). And guru Govind Singh says Allah & Abhek (Ram) are the same and the Koran and Hindu scriptures are the same (Akal Ustat vs 16:86). ans. Kabir is calling out muslims for their hypocritical behaviour. Guru is not validating vedas but saying what vedas mention about current age. Allah and Ram are same because God has countless names and holy books are referred as same because they play same role for their believers. As i answered in previous questions, no religion has copyright over truth. Regarding holy books, Gurus said reading religious books are important because they do contain wisdom and they agree on many common themes specially indian ones, but does not guarantee liberation beacuse if a person (including sikhs) don't understand the meaning or deny to read them because of ego or if someone is expert in these books but they are full of ego, greedy, or there holy books tells one to hurt others, then these books are called useless. 5. It claims that there is only one way to God (p920 M3; p1279 M1) and yet the Guru Granth Sahib also teaches there are many ways to God (p885 M5.7. It teaches that all humans are children of God ( p1118 M4) yet also says, not all, but only those who love Him are His children (p658 Ravidass). ans. Yes there is only one God to reach him there is only one way, in other page (ang) guru is saying people refer that one God with different names not many ways or different gods. Yes everyone are children of God but Bhagat Ravidas is raising a moral statement that 'only those who love him are his children' just like in real life when someone abondon their parents we say 'you are not their true child'. 6. The guru says that he is blind, ignorant and without enlightenment (p696 M4) yet he is called guru, which means one who leads from darkness to light. ans. Guru is calling himself blind, ignorant and without enlightenment out of humility, one of the five virtues of a good sikh. True guru or satguru is God/Vaheguru. Also this bani belongs to fourth guru. Read about his life and know yourself. 7. It teaches the existence of Heaven (p718 Namdev; p952 M3) yet the concept of Heaven is rejected(p969 Kabir). ans. Concept of heaven - already answered in question 3. 8. It teaches that the world is a dream, an illusion and not real (p740 M5; p1187 M9 p1231 M9)yet guru Nanak says it is real (p463 M1). ans. Read full context, yes everything is real but world is considered dream or illusion metaphorically because like things in a dream are useless, nothing shall go along with you in the end. Like a dream your life and this world will pass away in an instant and you will die regretting that you did not remembered Vaheguru. 9. Guru Arjun Dev claims that he was given supernatural powers (p782 M5) yet guru Nanak, admitted to the Siddh yogis that he performed no miracles(Bhai Gurdas // 1.42/43) ans. Sikhi does not deny the existence of supernatural powers because they are common among siddhas as they are sign of spritual progress. Sikhi deny their use for personal gains or attract followers by showing magic tricks or harassing others. 10. The Guru Granth Sahib rejects the Vedas (p329 Kabir) yet Guru Arjun Dev validates the Vedas (p632 M5). He also quotes them as though an authority(p632 M5). Guru Nanak also quotes them as though an authority (p831 M1).The fourth guru does the same and quotes them as though an authority (p998 M4). Namdev quotes the Gita as though an authority (p874 Namdev). Ravidass quotes the sage Vyas as though an authority (p658 Ravidass). ans. SGGS says these books exist because of power of God. Read your books but don't develop ego. Naam simran is superior to any book. Gurus / Bhagats are not confirming their authority anywhere here. Similar concept in indic faith is mentioned in these i.e. worshipping that one God with devotion. These books hold authority over their believers. Check answer 4. 11. The Guru Granth Sahib says that everything was created by the agency of millions of Brahmas (p1156 M5). Yet the one God created everything ( p1 M1). ans. One God created everything because he is the only creator but gods like brahma exist in many cultures & mythologies who created worlds, they are considered representation of power / particular expect of God / agents, all the credit goes to Vaheguru. Guru is saying Vaheguru even created them he is so great! 12. Dhanna jat is said to have worshipped a stone and God appeared to him. Yet stone worshipping is condemned (p1160 Kabir).Guru Granth Sahib gives no account of the creation of man and in fact says the Semitic books are false (p329 Kabir). Yet itself validates the existence of Baba Adam (p1161 Kabir). ans.The story is fake. When Guru Nanak collected writings of different saints, he wrote similar hymns to attest / support them but not in the case of Dhanna. Later 5th Guru did it because they story was created after Guru Nanak and Bhagat Dhanna left the world. Both Gurus and Saints in Guru Granth Sahib are against such practice. SGGS is not a science book neither claims to be but mentions creation of men / everything in Maru M1 Page 1035. Bhagat kabir is referring to social conditions created by Smritis at that time due to all the rituals in it. He says, in such conditions, one should be detached from them not false. On other hand he is talking about different religious believes of people such as Adam from Semitic & 8.4 million incarnations in indic all are made by God. 13. The Guru Granth Sahib teaches that God does not incarnate (p1136 M5) yet talks of the Nehklank Avatar (p1403 Swayyas). ans. Bhatts used to be hindu and made an analogy with their previous belief & said 'to us, Guru is everything'. They are simply being honest while mentioning different philosophy. God is considered source of all avatars. People refer Avatars as God taking birth because they identify with physical body instead of soul which never took birth. Avatars are just another soul coming from God and God's highest existence is formless which was never born & never takes birth. 14. The Gurus never called themselves divine, but in fact sinners in need of salvation by the Grace of God. (p156 M1; p536 M5; p261 M5; M5 p1301). Yet Swayyas sing praises and laudations to them and make them divine (p1405 Swayyas; p1407 Swayyas; p1408 Swayyas; p1409 Swayyas). ans. As i said earlier Gurus called themselves sinners and lowly out of humilty to make an example and be a good role model for sikhs. Yes they were divine, we do not need proof from outsiders. 15. It teaches monism i.e. all is one reality and God is all (p846 M5; p464 // M1; p1291 // Malar M1; p131 Majh M5. Yet says that man is not the same essence as God but only resembles Him (p754 Suhi M3). ans. Just like water in ocean and water in a drop are same but drop of water in terms of vastness and glory is nothing compared to ocean. Same with your soul and Supreme Soul. If you read these pages (ang) even in english you will find out how out of context these questions are and some of them are totally made up for example there is no Bani of Guru Arjun on p632 (question 10) but i used gurbani to answer them anyway.